Dead body of Bin Laden a Treasure?

Dead body of Bin Laden a Treasure?
Treasure Hunter claims to have found the body of
Osama bin Laden.

As a Professional Treasure Hunter I can understand the recovery of a body being deemed a Treasure.

A few examples would be, Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, Jesus the Christ, Moses and so on, but Osama bin Laden? Now I know bin Laden’s family might and so would a few of his country men, but an American Citizen considering bin Laden’s body a Treasure?

The Treasure Hunter is out of California and his name is Bill Warren. He announced back in July of 2011 that he was going to raise an expedition to find the body the US Military dumped overboard in a burial at sea. His reasoning? He believes that our Government has lied about terminating the life of Osama bin Laden and he is out to recover the body and do DNA tests to prove out his theory.

Warren is getting attention and he really only has an idea of where the body may be, whatever body it is, was dumped. He is trying to fund his expedition, which he states would take between $200,000 and $400,000 to execute. As for me, it costs more than $400,000 to mount one of our Treasure Expeditions and yes; our missions regularly find dead bodies, but $400,000 spent to recover $50,000,0000 or $700,000,000 is more my taste, not just to try to prove up some conspiracy theory.

Just my thoughts, but why don’t you read and listen for yourself? Below is the original article by By Jesus Diaz, Gizmodo.com ( Email Author May 2, 2012 | 3:25 pm | Categories: Bizarro )and the link is provided so you can listen to Bill Warren make his case. Enjoy- Commander

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The guy in the video above is Bill Warren, the Californian treasure hunter who claimed he was searching for Osama bin Laden’s dead body back in June 2011. He didn’t find him then, but now he swears that he has located the cadaver.

Talking to Spanish newspaper El Mundo, Warren says he has no doubt about where Osama is:

I’ve located where they threw him away. I’m the only one with this information. He’s 200 miles to the west of the Indian city of Surat.
Warren — who claims to have discovered more than 200 shipwrecks during his career as a treasure-hunter — says that bin Laden’s body is still at that same location, deep under water. His thought is that, since the Navy weighted down the bag, the body hasn’t moved from where it was dropped. He is now trying to rent Russian deep diving equipment to locate his payload, and to conduct DNA tests once he finds him.

At least, that’s what he believes. He says he pinpointed the drop point from photos recently released by the U.S. Navy.

Warren is now in Azerbaijan, apparently working for their government in a contract to locate some old ships. But he is ready to start the diving for Osama’s body bag: he says he’s aiming at starting the mission on June 1, and that he may be able to find the body in “under a week.” He also claims that the search would last a maximum of three months. He declares that his only fear is that the US Government would kill him or sink his boat.
Warren is now searching for $200,000 to finance the whole operation (Bill, I suggest Kickstarter). He wouldn’t have needed that money had he located the Trinidad, the famous Spanish ship loaded with Aztec gold that sunk in the coast of California in 1540. Warren has repeatedly tried to locate that treasure, once in 1976 and then again in 1987. Back then he claimed he had located the Trinidad, but obviously he didn’t.

Conspiracy theories
The same could probably be true with bin Laden’s body. It’s highly unlikely that, even if Warren were right about the location — and again, there’s very little chance he is — he would be able to find a body bag in the bottom of the deep sea.

Warren says he is doing this because he doesn’t “believe the Obama administration” and he wants to have proof that it is really his body. But, if he doesn’t believe President Obama and the United States Navy, why would the body be down there at all? If he thinks that they are lying, the most logical thing is to believe that they never buried the body at sea. But who knows, maybe Bill will prove himself right this time. Or maybe the body will not be there because Osama bin Laden is alive and well, playing cards and drinking mai tais with Elvis and Marilyn, in that secret government paradise island in the middle of the Pacific.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/05/gizmodo-bin-laden-body/

Dead body of Bin Laden a Treasure?

Dead body of Bin Laden a Treasure?
Treasure Hunter claims to have found the body of
Osama bin Laden.

As a Professional Treasure Hunter I can understand the recovery of a body being deemed a Treasure.

A few examples would be, Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, Jesus the Christ, Moses and so on, but Osama bin Laden? Now I know bin Laden’s family might and so would a few of his country men, but an American Citizen considering bin Laden’s body a Treasure?

The Treasure Hunter is out of California and his name is Bill Warren. He announced back in July of 2011 that he was going to raise an expedition to find the body the US Military dumped overboard in a burial at sea. His reasoning? He believes that our Government has lied about terminating the life of Osama bin Laden and he is out to recover the body and do DNA tests to prove out his theory.

Warren is getting attention and he really only has an idea of where the body may be, whatever body it is, was dumped. He is trying to fund his expedition, which he states would take between $200,000 and $400,000 to execute. As for me, it costs more than $400,000 to mount one of our Treasure Expeditions and yes; our missions regularly find dead bodies, but $400,000 spent to recover $50,000,0000 or $700,000,000 is more my taste, not just to try to prove up some conspiracy theory.

Just my thoughts, but why don’t you read and listen for yourself? Below is the original article by By Jesus Diaz, Gizmodo.com ( Email Author May 2, 2012 | 3:25 pm | Categories: Bizarro )and the link is provided so you can listen to Bill Warren make his case. Enjoy- Commander

SNIP>
The guy in the video above is Bill Warren, the Californian treasure hunter who claimed he was searching for Osama bin Laden’s dead body back in June 2011. He didn’t find him then, but now he swears that he has located the cadaver.

Talking to Spanish newspaper El Mundo, Warren says he has no doubt about where Osama is:

I’ve located where they threw him away. I’m the only one with this information. He’s 200 miles to the west of the Indian city of Surat.
Warren — who claims to have discovered more than 200 shipwrecks during his career as a treasure-hunter — says that bin Laden’s body is still at that same location, deep under water. His thought is that, since the Navy weighted down the bag, the body hasn’t moved from where it was dropped. He is now trying to rent Russian deep diving equipment to locate his payload, and to conduct DNA tests once he finds him.

At least, that’s what he believes. He says he pinpointed the drop point from photos recently released by the U.S. Navy.

Warren is now in Azerbaijan, apparently working for their government in a contract to locate some old ships. But he is ready to start the diving for Osama’s body bag: he says he’s aiming at starting the mission on June 1, and that he may be able to find the body in “under a week.” He also claims that the search would last a maximum of three months. He declares that his only fear is that the US Government would kill him or sink his boat.
Warren is now searching for $200,000 to finance the whole operation (Bill, I suggest Kickstarter). He wouldn’t have needed that money had he located the Trinidad, the famous Spanish ship loaded with Aztec gold that sunk in the coast of California in 1540. Warren has repeatedly tried to locate that treasure, once in 1976 and then again in 1987. Back then he claimed he had located the Trinidad, but obviously he didn’t.

Conspiracy theories
The same could probably be true with bin Laden’s body. It’s highly unlikely that, even if Warren were right about the location — and again, there’s very little chance he is — he would be able to find a body bag in the bottom of the deep sea.

Warren says he is doing this because he doesn’t “believe the Obama administration” and he wants to have proof that it is really his body. But, if he doesn’t believe President Obama and the United States Navy, why would the body be down there at all? If he thinks that they are lying, the most logical thing is to believe that they never buried the body at sea. But who knows, maybe Bill will prove himself right this time. Or maybe the body will not be there because Osama bin Laden is alive and well, playing cards and drinking mai tais with Elvis and Marilyn, in that secret government paradise island in the middle of the Pacific.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/05/gizmodo-bin-laden-body/

Treasure Hunters GET INSIDE INFORMATION! TreasureForce

Treasure does come in many forms. Gold, Diamonds, Ancient Artifacts, maps and documents and EVEN MODERN INFORMATION!

TreasureForce promotes the key to successful Treasure Hunting is actually Treasure Research. The better your research the more likely you are to actually recover treasure!

With that said, you need to check in and participate on the various TreasureForce blog sites. They are packed with tremendous useful information regarding treasure hunting and each TreasureForce Team Member has their own blog.

 

Beasts' BlogTreasure Logistics Blog

Try out our blog and let us know what you think!  And while you are at it, maybe you would like our YouTube Channel as well!

 

Sheep and Cattle taught 6 and 9 year olds about hunting treasures.

Treasure lovers who have read our books, especially books by Commander, such as Millions Found and Billions Lost or Treasure Case Files: or mine Survive or Die, know that I started Commander on this treasure addiction when I was just 9 years old.

I jumped into a river that adjoins family farm and ranch and found a safe load of goodies from a Bank Robbery, but what you may not know is SHEEP was why we were there the first place. Growing up in South Central Texas everyone in the family worked the family farm and ranch and was involved in farming, farming chores, ranching and ranch chores. It was part of our lives. The whole family, to help the family business run and to help the family make ends meet was involved in the business. Serious chores and duties, and as for me, but I would not swap a single minute of it for anything. Why? I learned a great – get it done and never give up – work ethic. So how does this relate to Treasure Hunting and successful Treasure Hunting?

The day I found the bank robbery cache was a normal day in the Texas Hill Country and those days consisted of ranch chores, mainly maintaining and managing the sheep herd. In fact, I was a 4-H and AG Superstar and worked hard as a child winning awards and raising award winning herds. Anyway, I digress, what the real story is, when you worked the ranch and did chores and the HUGE PAYOFF at the end of the work was heading down to the river and jumping in the cold rive. What a COOL reward, literally! The side bonuses were learning a trade, a work ethic, a sense of responsibility and that ever so important Professional Treasure Hunter trait of NEVER GIVE UP and WORK HARD AND THEN WORK EVEN HARDER!

Why this blog story, then? Well the government wants to outlaw children working on family farms and ranches? Is this healthy? Is this even good for the children? For Beast and myself, if it were not for family farms and ranches, we both would NOT have the outdoor skills, senses, intuition, and abilities combined with a NEVER GIVE UP attitude. So what will this law do to future generations? It’s not a political issue and it does not matter whether this is a republican, liberal, democrat, progressive or independent issue – the issue to me is why is this issues is even an issue? READ MORE

Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores A proposal from the Obama administration to prevent children from doing farm chores has drawn plenty of criticism from rural-district members of Congress. But now it’s attracting barbs from farm kids themselves. The Department of Labor is poised to put the finishing touches on a rule that would apply child-labor laws to children working on family farms, prohibiting them from performing a list of jobs on their own families’ land. Under the rules, children under 18 could no longer work “in the storing, marketing and transporting of farm product raw materials.”

“Prohibited places of employment,” a Department press release read, “would include country grain elevators, grain bins, silos, feed lots, stockyards, livestock exchanges and livestock auctions.” The new regulations, first proposed August 31 by Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, would also revoke the government’s approval of safety training and certification taught by independent groups like 4-H and FFA, replacing them instead with a 90-hour federal government training course. Rossie Blinson, a 21-year-old college student from Buis Creek, N.C., told The Daily Caller that the federal government’s plan will do far more harm than good. “The main concern I have is that it would prevent kids from doing 4-H and FFA projects if they’re not at their parents’ house,” said Blinson. “I started showing sheep when I was four years old. I started with cattle around 8. It’s been very important. I learned a lot of responsibility being a farm kid.”

In Kansas, Cherokee County Farm Bureau president Jeff Clark was out in the field — literally on a tractor — when TheDC reached him. He said if Solis’s regulations are implemented, farming families’ labor losses from their children will only be part of the problem. “What would be more of a blow,” he said, “is not teaching our kids the values of working on a farm.” The Environmental Protection Agency reports that the average age of the American farmer is now over 50. “Losing that work-ethic — it’s so hard to pick this up later in life,” Clark said. “There’s other ways to learn how to farm, but it’s so hard. You can learn so much more working on the farm when you’re 12, 13, 14 years old.”

Read the full story here: http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/25/rural-kids-parents-angry-about-labor-dept-rule-banning-farm-chores/#ixzz1t4hdfdBp

How to SKIN and COOK Rattlesnake in the Field – TREASUREFORCE style

How to Cook a Rattlesnake – Beast and Sarge SPECIAL
Regardless of where our expeditions take us in the United States, we tend to run into rattlesnakes.  Yes, they can be creepy, dangerous, and yes, the stories are true – they will crawl up next to you at night and try to steal your body heat and warm themselves.  Sometimes on the road we accidentally end the life of a Rattler.  Now we don’t set out to kill them, in fact we go out of our way to avoid them.  But sometimes they get under a wheel or such and get killed.

So, we don’t waste them, we skin and cook them.  Here are some of the best rattler recipes we have found that you can use.  BTW, we have included links for how to skin rattlers as well.

You may turn a little green at the idea of eating a rattlesnake, but rattlesnake meat is a delicacy in the southwestern United States and is even available in some restaurants. Most aficionados disagree agree that rattlesnake meat tastes like chicken, but would claim that it has more of a wild taste akin to frog legs, pheasant or elk.   How to Cook Rattle Snake Meat    How to Skin a Rattlesnake

Things You’ll Need

1 Diamondback rattlesnake, cut into 2-inch chunks

1/2 cup honey

½ cup teriyaki sauce

2 tsps. freshly ground ginger

Sesame seed

3 tsp. cumin

1 rattlesnake, cut into small piece

1 tsp. seasoned salt

3 tbsp. teriyaki sauce

1 tsp. spicy Mexican seasoning

Olive oil

1 large bell pepper, sliced into rings

1 large onion, sliced into rings

½ clove minced garlic

6 cherry tomatoes, cut in half

6 pita bread pockets

1 cup shredded Colby cheese

Salsa

Sour cream

Guacamole

2 medium onions, chopped

3 large garlic cloves, chopped

1 red bell pepper, cut into chunks

4 fresh jalapeno peppers, chopped

1 15 oz. can tomato paste

1 28 oz. can chili beans

¼ cup chili powder

1 tsp. salt

1 tsp. pepper

2 lbs. rattlesnake meat

Juice of ½

Barbecued Rattlesnake

Make a marinade by mixing teriyaki sauce, ginger and honey in a small bowl.

Marinate the rattlesnake meat chunks in a zip-seal bag or sealable bowl. Refrigerate for at least 3 hours.

Roll the meat chunks in sesame seeds.

Cook over a medium heat grill until done.

Rattlesnake Fajitas in Pita Bread

Make a marinade by mixing teriyaki sauce, seasoned salt and Mexican seasoning.

Marinate meat in sealed container. Refrigerate for at least 3 hours.

Sear meat in olive oil in a large, heavy pan. Add onion, garlic, tomatoes and bell pepper and sauté for about 10 minutes or until the vegetables are tender, but not soft.

Cut pita bread in half, butter the inside, and toast until crisp.

Spoon the meat mixture into the pita bread. Top with cheese and serve with salsa, sour cream and guacamole on the side.

Spicy Rattlesnake Chili

Cook rattlesnake in water and lemon juice over medium heat for one hour.

Remove rattlesnake meat from the bones.

Place rattlesnake meat and remainder of ingredients in a crockpot.

Cook on slow for 6 to 8 hours.

To find out more GO HERE:
http://www.ehow.com/how_2077794_cook-rattlesnake.html#ixzz1sskTxrt0

WHY A PROFESSIONAL TREASURE HUNTER? TREASUREFORCE

WHY A TREASURE HUNTER?

 

“Why are you a Professional Treasure Hunter?”

“How did you become a Professional Treasure Hunter?”

“Can you become really rich being a Professional Treasure Hunter?”

 

Ask any member of our TreasureForce Teams, whether they be part of Team Research-Team Recon or Team Recovery, and you will find the three questions above are the most common questions asked when someone finds out what we do for a living.

 

Of course, it’s Team Recovery (the actual team that sets foot on the ground in the last stages of treasure hunting to actually take the final steps to pinpoint a treasure and start the recovery process), which gets all the glory.  Especially since these are the team members who are there when the magic moment occurs.  That MAGIC MOMENT is the first glimpse of that long awaited confirmation of the Treasure.

 

So, needless to say our Alpha Team, Bravo Team, Delta Team and Base Camp Team get the most glory.  But, put 100 people in a room, or rush a Team Recon or Team Recovery member to a local emergency room and watch the whole hospital floors staff come visit the patient who is a Professional Treasure Hunter.

 

“WOW, You are a REAL Treasure Hunter?”

 

It just falls from every person’s lips.  And you thought the Doctor was the most sought after person in the room.  You know what I mean.  Go to a party and when someone finds the Doctor in the room, everyone starts to probe and ask questions trying to find out IF they “have something”.  Poor Doctor gets dragged to the corner, just so some bloke can whip out his…. well, “show” the Doctor his problem, oozing spot.  Don’t believe me this happens, well just as any Doctor you know.

 

It’s different with a Professional Treasure Hunter.  Once all the commotion stops, then every one and I mean EVERYONE, has a treasure story they have heard, that they want to retell and then they want YOU to confirm IT IS REAL.  As for all of our TreasureForce Teams, we love collecting the stories and when you do tell us YOUR own stories, we really are listening and storing those bits of data in the back of our minds.

 

But, the key here is for us to NOT FLATTER ourselves that “we do cool work that other people couldn’t do.”  That’s just not true.  It’s a choice.  As my saying goes:

 

“Life is like a Lottery.  If you’re not IN, you can’t WIN!”

 

Being a Treasure Hunter is a CHOICE AND HUGE COMMITMENT!  But, first you have to make the CHOICE to become one.  If you want it, you can make it happen.

 

The rest, such as the skills, the techniques, the huge discoveries, the small discoveries and yes, the massive disappointments -ALL COME in time.  But first is CHOSING to do something different.  But, you want to know what the single biggest choice is?  Here you go – I am able to reveal the HUGE SECRET to being a Treasure Hunter:

 

“Are YOU willing to sell and gamble EVERY SINGLE ASSET and thing of value and tradable for cash, to BET it on a DREAM of riches that at best, the only verifiable odds are 50/50 and most of that comes from gut and intuition?”  Or maybe a little more closer to home put this way:

 

“Are you willing to take your life savings, retirement accounts, investments, child’s college tuition and every spec of cash you can muster to walk out in the jungle, mountains or desert and hope you find that long lost treasure in the 6 weeks you have allotted?

 

Oh, I almost forgot.  You have to quit your job and lose your steady paycheck since your company is NOT going to let you off for six weeks and then you have to figure out a way to postpone all your bills and creditors and “hope” they will let you “pay them later”, of course, all this WHEN AND IF you make the HUGE FIND!

 

Does not sound so exciting when the reality is set out for all to see.  How about this reality?

 

  1. Our Team Research – that’s the TreasureForce Team Members who do all the behinds the scenes work in musty archives and libraries and such, for an average of THREE to FIVE YEARS before we ever set foot on a potential treasure location.  That’s equal to waiting 5 years to get your REAL paycheck.
  2. Our Team Recon – that’s the TreasureForce Team Members who are the first Team Members to set ground on the potential treasure site and have to pain staking search ground foot-by-foot, local records, courthouses and such for any FORENSIC SHRED of REAL PROOF that the people, places and things are REAL in any given treasure legend.  Team Recon may make 2 to as many as 6 trips to a town, location or geographic area just to try to PROVE UP a treasure Legend and this can take from 1 to as many as 3 years to accomplish.  Now, combine that with Team Research that means that Team Research has now been waiting up to 8 YEARS and Team Recon has up to 3 YEARS invested.  That’s a long time for the BIG PAYDAY.
  3. Team Recovery – THE ROCK STARS OF THE TREASURE BUSINESS. The people, who get all the attention, fan fair and glory.  They ONLY go to the treasure site when Team Research and Team Recon have signed off on the Expeditions and proven up the treasure legend.  Then, in most cases Team Recovery has 6 weeks to bring home the bacon, since we are usually fighting the elements and the seasons, not to mention dangerous elements and hostile environments.

 

Now comes the REAL test to being able to wait it out or beat the time and financial clock.  What do I mean the “time and financial” clock. Well Team Recovery (Alpha Team, Bravo Team, Delta Team and Base Camp Team) has a FIXED time clock and fixed operational budget to pull off the score.  It usually looks something like this:  $750,000 operational expedition budget and 35 days (remember you are not hunting the actual travel days to and from a site).  So, Team Recovery is clicking away at $ 21,428.57 dollars a day.  That means if you go 25 of those 35 days with no results then $535,714.28 is GONE with NOTHING to show for it.

 

Doesn’t sound so sexy and sane now does it?  I didn’t think so.

 

If you worry about your spouse when you are gone or your kids when you are incognito and incommunicado for 6 weeks – then being a Professional Treasure Hunter is NOT for you.

 

If you cannot walk away from that weekly “tit” called the “paycheck” then you can’t be a Treasure Hunter.  You will flat go NUTS with a capital N.  The worry and emotional burden is huge.

 

I always tell anyone who ask “ Can I go out with you one time on a Treasure Hunt?” the following, but unfortunate canned answer.

 

“  If you can eat beans and rice for breakfast, lunch and dinner.  If you can sleep without a shelter over your head. If you don’t mind rattlesnakes snuggling up to you to keep warm at night and if you can wipe your ass with cactus, THEN you make be able to make it and survive IN BASE CAMP.”  Yep, that part only sums up base camp.  The actual tactical and forensic work is dangerous and truly hazardous to one’s health.

 

(If we meet in person, look at my hands and arms and ask to see all the bits and pieces and tips I have left out in the field or had amputated off thanks to the working environment.  Yes scars can be cool to show, but long before they are cool to show off to a younger crowd ———–reminds me of the Roy Scheider, Richard Dreyfuss and Robert Shaw when they are getting drunk and comparing scars and war stories——they are horrible wounds and reminders of the dangers and they have to heal and you to survive to even be a scar in the first place.)

 

The point? Being a Professional Treasure Hunter is a lifestyle more than an actual vocation.  You have to WANT all the things that just come along with being a Treasure Hunter.  Like the wispy cactus that works it way into your genitals while in the field and then they BUST out UNANNOUNCED hurting like hell 6 months AFTER you have left the field and they have hardened up INSIDE your system.  And that’s some of the more docile things that can get a hold of you in the field.

 

You have to be ready for anything, willing to take chances with everything from money and security to your very life. You always must be willing to stretch your limits and find new personal boundaries.  You must have tremendous self discipline, but IF your PRIMARY motive is to get RICH FAST, then you are better off inventing something, starting a company or getting in somewhere with huge stock options.  Treasure Hunting is not for you.

 

BUT HERE IS WHAT TREASURE HUNTING IS!

 

Great fun.  Always exciting. History making. A total disaster waiting to happen.  Exciting. Always unpredictable.  Exciting. Never what you expected.  Murphy’s and Moore’s Law SQUARED. Exasperating, exhilarating, blood curdling, pecker hardening (and unfortunately due to stress – pecker softening), test of abilities, test of agilities, test and act of faith and the most AWE INSPIRING environment you could ever work it.  I mean, how did our forefathers hack they way across American with crude tools and no technology?  I mean, just that alone is AWE INSPIRING.

 

Now I didn’t mean to dampen your spirits in any way or function.  I just really want to set the record straight.  The other day I watched a “treasure hunter” on TV and they were all excited over a civil war gun barrel they found deep in someone’s backyard.  You bet is it exciting to find history in ones backyard.  And sometimes finding history is the only payoff.  Why? Well, as I counted it, there were 8 people on this Treasure Hunters Team and two homeowners who all get a share in the find of the civil war gun barrel.  In the real world, that barrel will bring $10 on ebay in the current state it’s in and that means the individuals got $1.00 each for their efforts.  Not to mention, $400 in fuel, $600 in expenses and $200 or so in equipment cost.  In all, the real team members PAID OUT $1200 dollars or $150 each to go on this backyard treasure hunt.  Net result – $149 lost per person BUT still exciting and still recovering history and that is some times the ONLY PAY OFF.

 

Now that I just wee-weed all over your dreams. How about this?

 

Work 3 years, spend a cool million and find $300 million.  In any book that’s odds of 300 to 1 and in stock market terms it’s a 300% a year pay off. Or getting back paid $100 million for each year you put into it.  Now there’s a pay off when the stock market has scraped by at the following rates of return:

 

2011              2.05

2010            14.87

2009            27.11

2008            -37.22

2007              5.46

2006            15.74

2005              4.79

2004            10.82

2003            28.72

2002            -22.27

2001            -11.98

2000            -9.11

 

Opps, I forgot – it is going to take you 10 years to get the total treasure out of the ground.  There are those pesky numbers again and I will save that for another post.

What would YOU do if you found a $17 billion dollar TREASURE? TREASUREFORCE

Lets say decades ago you located a treasure worth billions?  You go through the motions to get your permits and agreements in place and you do in fact, get them done.  But what happens when one party does not want to honor the contract and gets greedy or uncooperative?  Well, check out this story from Fox News:

A U.S. court ruled in favor of Colombia in a decades-long legal dispute over the ownership of pieces of a sunken galleon found in Colombian territorial waters 300 years ago.

The U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia ruled the Andean country does not have to pay $17 billion to Sea Search Armada, a U.S.-based salvage company. The company claimed the South American country breached a contract granting it the right to salvage Galleon San José, a British Navy ship that sank June 8, 1708, off the coast of Colombia.

The Spanish ship, which was trying to outrun a fleet of British warships, came loaded with more than 200 tons of gold, silver and emeralds when a mysterious explosion made it sink 700 feet below the surface, near the Rosario Islands. The treasure was owned by Peruvian and European merchants.

The Spanish galleon San José was trying to outrun a fleet of British warships off Colombia on June 8, 1708, when a mysterious explosion sent it to the bottom of the sea with gold, silver and emeralds owned by private Peruvian and European merchants, and lies about 700 feet below the water’s surface, a few miles from the historic Caribbean port of Cartagena, on the edge of the Continental Shelf.

Sea Search Armada said it found the shipwreck in the 1980s, and was given exclusive rights to claim 50 percent of what it found. Colombia later signed a decree – which eventually became law – giving the company a 5 percent “finders fee” – triggering Sea Search to sue Colombia for a larger share of its find.

The treasure is reportedly worth $4 billion to $17 billion.

“Without a doubt, the San José is the Holy Grail of treasure shipwrecks,” Robert Cembrola, director of the Naval War College Museum in Newport, R.I., said when the lawsuit was first filed.

The San José is known to have been part of Spain’s only royal convoy take colonial gold to King Philip V during the War of Spanish Succession (1701–1714).

The ruling could also affect other commercial salvage companies eager to dive for more than 1,000 galleons and merchant ships believed to have sunk along Colombia’s coral reefs during more than three centuries of colonial rule. Almost none has been recovered because of the legal limbo in the San Jose case.

The Colombian embassy in Washington said in a statement that “the decision is subject to appeal.”

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/lifestyle/2011/10/25/court-rules-in-favor-colombia-in-holy-grail-shipwrecks-case/#ixzz1bvy5KZmF

Treasure Curses ARE REAL! TREASUREFORCE

As a Member of TreasureForce, one thing we find in common with most Treasure Legends is they all seem to come with their very own curse.  It’s as if some are portected by demons.  Never would of believed it, but this expedition was rough and challenge after challenge.  Look and see what I mean.

A Man WHO Changed the WORLD – for the better, dies way too early! TREASUREFORCE

Steve Jobs dies at 56; Apple’s co-founder transformed computers and culture

“COMMANDER’S COMMENTS” – Steve Jobs and I shared the same Publicist for a few years.  He was a great man, who left an AMAZING LEGACY.  He will be missed, but more than just the mere man, the world has suffered a lost in losing his Being and Personal Vision!

His legacy of blockbuster products includes the Macintosh, iPod, iPhone and iPad. Meanwhile, Jobs’ other firm, Pixar, revolutionized computer animation.

By David Sarno and Christopher Goffard, Los Angeles Times

October 5, 2011, 5:00 p.m.

Steven P. Jobs, the charismatic technology pioneer who co-founded Apple Inc. and transformed one industry after another, from computers and smartphones to music and movies, has died. He was 56.

Apple announced the death of Jobs — whose legacy included the Apple II, Macintosh, iMac, iPod, iPhone and iPad.

“We are deeply saddened to announce that Steve Jobs passed away today,” Apple said. “Steve’s brilliance, passion and energy were the source of countless innovations that enrich and improve all of our lives. The world is immeasurably better because of Steve.”

He had resigned as chief executive of Apple in August, after struggling with illness for nearly a decade, including a bout with pancreatic cancer in 2003 and a liver transplant six years later.

Few public companies were as entwined with their leaders as Apple was with Jobs, who co-founded the computer maker in his parents’ Silicon Valley garage in 1976, and decades later — in a comeback as stunning as it seemed improbable — plucked it from near-bankruptcy and turned it into the world’s most valuable technology company.

Jobs spoke of his desire to make “a dent in the universe,” bringing a messianic intensity to his message that technology was a tool to improve human life and unleash creativity.

“His ability to always come around and figure out where that next bet should be has been phenomenal,” Microsoft Corp. co-founder Bill Gates, the high-tech mogul with whom Jobs was most closely compared, said in 2007.

In the annals of modern American entrepreneur-heroes, few careers traced a more mythic sweep. An adopted child in a working-class California home, Jobs dropped out of college and won the title “father of the computer revolution” by the age of 29. But by 30 he had been forced out of the company he had created, a bitter wound he nursed for years as his fortune shrank and he fought to regain his early eminence.

Once out of the wilderness of exile, however, he brought forth a series of innovations — unveiling them with matchless showmanship — that quickly became ubiquitous. He turned the release of a new gadget into a cultural event, with Apple acolytes lining up like pilgrims at Lourdes.

Jobs was born in San Francisco on Feb. 24, 1955, to Joanne Carole Schieble and Syrian immigrant Abdulfattah Jandali, unmarried University of Wisconsin graduate students who put him up for adoption. He was adopted by Paul Jobs, a high school dropout who sold used cars and worked as a machinist, and his wife, Clara.

Jobs’ willfulness and chutzpah were evident early on. At 11, he decided he didn’t like his rowdy and chaotic middle school in Mountain View, Calif., and refused to go back. His family moved to a nearby town so he could attend another school.

When he was 12 or 13, Jobs would recall, he called the home of William Hewlett, one of the founders of Hewlett-Packard Co., to ask about parts he needed for a device he was building. For Jobs, it led to a humble summer job on a Hewlett-Packard assembly line, which he compared to being “in heaven.”

While attending Homestead High School in Cupertino, Calif., Jobs met Steve Wozniak, who was nearly five years older. A technical wizard who was in and out of college, Wozniak liked to make machines to show off to other tinkerers.

The two collaborated on a series of pranks and built and sold “blue boxes” — devices that enabled users to hijack phone lines and make free — and illegal — calls.

In 1972, Jobs dropped out of Reed College in Oregon after six months but lingered on campus, sleeping on friends’ dorm-room floors. He sat in on classes that interested him, such as calligraphy, which later inspired him to offer Macintosh users multiple fonts, a feature that would become a fixture of personal computing.

He worked sporadically as an electronics technician at video game maker Atari Inc., traveled to India on a quest for enlightenment and found guidance from a Zen Buddhist master.

Meanwhile, Wozniak had created a computer circuit board he was showing off to a group of Silicon Valley computer hobbyists. Jobs saw the device’s potential for broad appeal and persuaded Wozniak to leave his engineering job so they could design computers themselves.

In April 1976, the two launched Apple Computer out of Jobs’ parents’ garage, reproducing Wozniak’s circuit board as their first product.

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How A Beast becomes THE BEAST TREASUREFORCE

I grew up in the Texas Hill country. My family had been pioneers there since the mid to late 1800’s; therefore I grew up in the middle of cedar, rivers, tons of wild game and endless wilderness horizons. If it moved, ran, flew, crawled or swam, I wanted to trap it or catch it, study it and then eat it if I could. One day in middle school, my grandfather told me, “Boy you know you can trap the coons and make some money”, and then he proceeded to tell me how when he was a young boy he and his brother would trap and sell the furs and make their own money. So I kept the tradition up and soon I was trapping.
Back then, a skunk sold for zero, an opossum brought .50 cents and a raccoon brought $20. That was huge money for a kid at the beginning of the 70’s. A great way the old timers like my grandpa would use to measure your trapping ability was if you can trap raccoons and bobcats. Bobcats then were worth $200. If you were a good trapper you could set your traps and disguise them well enough to catch the big money. But, if you did not work hard and learn how to use your environment, all you could trap were skunks and opossums. I started out catching tons of skunks and opossums.
My first season I made $200 that was huge money. Mostly I became very good at trapping ringtails. They brought $12 each. That season as well I caught three raccoons. Now that was great for a kid trapping, but I wanted to be like my grandfathers friend, Pud Monkford, he trapped 5 bobcats that season and he was in his 80’s. Back then when you got your trapper license you also went the doctor and paid him $50 and he gave you the dreaded rabies shot in the bellybutton. Yes, think about it, about a 6 inch needle stuck right in your bellybutton so you could trap safely without worries of rabies. And boy was I afraid of rabies. I wasn’t stupid; I have watched and memorized “old Yeller” almost a hundred times.
In short order my trapping career was over when Raccoon furs went from $20 each to $1.00 and it was not worth the effort anymore, so I turn my attention to exotic game. I was in High School when I saw my very first exotic deer. It was an Axis deer that was imported from India. They are majestic and very graceful. They were bigger and smarter than white tail deer and they had a whole different set of calls and grunts and in fact they actually whistled. So I quickly trained my mind to hunt exotics and learn their ways and in short order I was one of the best hunters around.
You see, I have been handling a rifle and hunting since I was 5. I know, handling a high powered rifle at 5, unheard of today but back then it was just the way it was. By the time I was in high school, I was tired of hunting the standard Texas hunting way, and turned my attention to hunting with Bows. No more rifles, what was the sport in that? Bow Hunting was the rage since the newly created compound bow had just came out came out. Bells, Whistles, Wheels and Triggers, all on a Bow. Now I was hooked. Soon, I had the latest and greatest compound bow of all. I was rather proud of that Compound Bow and I became really good at hunting with it.

During those days there were not many Bow hunting shops around and when one opened up close to me I piled in with all my gear to see what their latest and greatest Compound gear was. The shop was called Texas Long Bow and Recurve and they had an indoor Bow Target Range. So, I swaggered in and the clerk asked me, (kidding me I soon learned) “what are all those wheels for on your bow?” So I handed him over my bow to look at. He proceeded to turn the bow upside down and put it between his legs and played like he was riding a bicycle while he poked fun at me saying “Now I see what these wheels are for”. I laughed but it shocked me as well. I was HIGH TECH and how dare he not recognize my High Tech expertise.
So next he issued me a challenge. He said, “See that dear target at the end of the range”? “Let me see you shoot your fancy bow”. So, I donned my Bow release, mounted my aluminum arrow with plastic quite whisper veins, clipped on, line up my fine liner sights, made sure I was on target through my peep sight and confirmed my distance with the ranger finder and then pulled back the Compound smoothly and gracefully. I steadied my hand and then with a click of the releases trigger, whoosh went my arrow and BULLSEYE. I showed him! He said “That’s pretty good shooting”. A huge smile spread across my face. He did recognize my superior high tech bow hunting ability after all. Then this fellow looked over to a side wall and took a four foot length of cedar tree off the wall. It was a green limb, meaning still soft and not quite hardened, and about an inch and a half round. Then he took a simple piece of nylon trot line, a fishing line, looped it over each end of the branch, loaded an wooden arrow and WHOOSH off went his. His arrow stuck right beside mine in the bull’s-eye. He then turned back to me and said “Now I see why you need all that high-tech stuff to hit the target”. MY life changed in that instant.
He took a limb and fishing line and accomplished the very same feat I did with all my very expensive high tech gear. Bubble popped. Life changed. I resolved to learn the art of hunting as the indigenous peoples did. To hunt with a bow takes skill, but to hunt with a handmade Bow takes even greater skill. Forget shooting from hundreds of yards away, you have to get close enough to a deer to smell it to be able to bring it down with a bow. To reach way back in time and go back to our shared indigenous roots when it comes to survival and hunting required that I learned how the lands original peoples did it, in order for me to do it.
I picked the limb of an osage orange tree to shape my bow. I used the sinew of a deer to reinforce or “back” my bow and to fasten my arrowheads. I had to learn to find, select and knap flint into arrowheads of different shapes and styles. Basically I had to learn how to live like a native from a thousand years ago to hone my craft as a primitive bow hunter. I spent weeks in the field at a time, living close to the ground and collecting raw materials to make my bows and arrows. In the end, I spent over three years learning my craft, and perfecting native skills such as learning how to make fire using the Sotol or yucca plant or what plants could be used to make cordage or for cordmaking. The end result, I could not only reproduce the tools of our far distance relatives, but I could live as they did and survive.
Now when I hunted, it was not looking down the scope at a deer with the excitement of a trophy, but I knew with the draw of the bow, if I missed my game, I simply would not eat. The first few times I used my hand made devices and drew down on a game animal to feed myself, my heart raced at a hundred miles an hour. This was not just hunting; this was surviving to the extreme, and living to the extreme – all at the same time. Now you might wonder what I mean by living to the extreme. I do not in any way mean that the word extreme to convey harshness or savagery, it’s exactly the opposite. Living off the land and being able to provide for myself in a totally native way became an amazing spiritual experience for me.
It hit me like a ton of bricks when I was following a game trail along a mountainside through the brush. The trail had been worn well over the hundreds if not thousands of years of wild game migrations. Here I am handmade bow and handmade flint arrows stalking game along an ancient game trail. The trees rattled in breeze, the fallen October leaves rustling all around cloaking my movements. As I walked, each foot carefully placed in a manner to not give away my location to the game I sought, I looked down at the trail I was walking and there before me was an amazing treasure.
I could not believe my eyes when I first spotted it, but there it was. A perfectly formed small game bird point arrowhead, a masterpiece of work, most likely fashioned over 1000 years before. My heart pounded with excitement and the total recognition of my find. Here, now in my hand, was a hunting arrow fashioned by a native more than a thousand years ago, and here I was, a modern day man not only walking in their exact footsteps, but walking literally in their shoes. Hunting as they hunted, stalking game as they stalked their game and hunting not as a sport, but as a means of survival. The feeling was both amazing and spiritual.
I realized in that profound moment, that modern hunting was nothing but gadgets and show, and not the connected, spiritual practice that native ancient stories told about. I finally understood truly being connected to the land and having to work hard to earn my share of the earth’s bounty. Literally, the moment I picked up the arrowhead, it was as if I was instantly transported through time to a thousand years ago. I was doing exactly what a warrior hunter was doing – in the same place he was doing it – over a thousand years apart.